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 Post subject: The Rain Forest Farming Foundation
PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:23 am 
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Name: The Rain Forest Farming Foundation
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Dear Peter,

thank you for your comments on our forest scheme. I am pasting the answers below:

On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Peter wrote:

    Dear ladies, dear sirs,
    I tried to read your pages about Rain Forest Farming Foundation carefully. But I have several
    questions which come across my mind during reading.
    You are correct in encouraging local farmers in careful development of the rainforest instead of
    logging and wide area commercial agriculture.
    But how will you ensure this? On the other hand I dont think that a mango plantation
    ( is as carefull as it should be. It's a mono
    culture with all disadvantages it have. Higher risc of parasites, therfore usage of insecticides.
    This insecticides kills also all other beneficial insects, which are probably necessary for
    fertlisation of other plants.  Additional fertlization ia necessary too, 'cause the mono culture
    leach out the soil more faster. This additional fertilization would be washed away with the
    next rain, is collected in rivers and change and destroy the aquatic life sustainable. The
    reduction of other native plants and animals in the area of this plantation is another
    point and a logical conclusion.

We do of course not go for mango plantations but for a conscious collection of the natural mango species, which are at the brink of extinction. Those we plant - among the many plants of a natural re-growth - in an area close enough that a viable population can survive. This you may call a life gene bank.

    On you noted 'Shifting cultivation leaves secondary
    growth at different age classes. These are patches we are looking for as the natural vegetation is
    still present and can regrow. While going through successional stages, the young forests can
    be used for a variety of non-timber products under ecologically sound management practices.'
    Does this mean you see shivting cultivation as a carefull and alternative usage of the rainforest?
    I hope not, this can't be true!!

As you say, this is not true. But we look for these patches as they can re-grow into real rain forest with some guidance.

    Do you also educate the farmes in birth control? The protected areas wouldn't last long if you
    miss this important point.

In China, people are only allowed to have 1 child; hence, there is no need for birth control education.

    On the Picture is also a
    treefern. There'a a  small community of treefernlovers who will realy enjoy to get
    spores of them. If handled carefully it wouldn't harm the treefern. And it would be another
    small income without destroying.


   Another point is that 1 ha of rainforest for US$ 4800.- is a lot that you suppose that
   interested people are able to contribute. Aren't there any quarter or eighth shares to buy?

maybe at a later stage we would do so; right now, we need to make sure that administratively we get everything perfect.

    Under '3 Land Administration' ( you noted that
   'renewable use rights for 60 years'. Does this mean that the questionable
    hectar is only protected for 60 years?

The Chinese laws are changing fast. At present the right to use a piece of land is granted only for 60 years and there is no land ownership in China as the State owns the land.
With times changing and the commercial forces getting stringer, there will likely be ownership in the future. At the moment, however, 60 years is already quite a good protection, considering the history of the past 60 years...

    Peter Singer

Thanks again and best wishes,

Dr. Josef Margraf

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P.O.Box 73
666100 Jinghong City
Yunnan, China
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